I grew up going to a church like the one Cersei attended, and I had a hunch from your post that she was an extremist to the worst degree. Even as a very religious person, I wouldnt want to be in the middle of that kind of work dynamic! It periodically appears in our breakroom (which is a federal govt office).My efforts to locate the person who brings it (for my own amusement/curiosity) have been unsuccessful. Please review the sites commenting rules before commenting! You wanna talk about Advent or the role of John the Baptist? I work with a young and liberal crowd, and especially when they find out I grew up Orthodox the questions are endless. So long as you leave in the Girl Scout cookie exemption, I see this catching on. Perhaps that tactic reined her in. As a religious person, I can sadly believe that! It tends to shut a lot of people up, or get people squawking. I know that we generally take LWs at their word and accept their descriptions, but there are two things here that jump out at me. I agree it sounds a bit like tattling to say that Cersei spends a lot of time talking about non-work stuff. Well, they dont witness to me anymore. Makes perfect sense that the advice to pray at three am came from a cat. I think I would just go point blank, Please do not turn every discussion we have into a religious discussion. The next time she does it, I have asked you before and I am asking you, again. But, let me share this story, I work with something kind of like this . Take that away from her and her coping strategy would be gone-gone-gone. Im not focusing on looking for a husband, because in the meantime, every three months, a person is torn to pieces by a crocodile in North Queensland!. and chat about Gods will for upwards of 40 minutes. I really hope that managements intervention will bring it down a few notches, but a person with this kind of worldview is very difficult to reason with :/. Its totally ok to kick complaints about proselytizing up the chain if your coworker wont back off after a straightforward request (eg I dont want to discuss this) But youre response is in a different category, and as out of line as the people who tell you how to get into heaven. She still tries but I keep it locked down. I was only putting it as milder in relation to what Vin said above about If the conversation turns to the gruesome inevitable smiting and hellfire of nonbelievers, and nonbelievers. I, as an employee, have every right not to be harassed, directly or indirectly about religion. I wonder if it would work to act like she really is just recommending a movie or whatever. I have a coworker who behaves almost the same way with cats. And she keeps it down for the most part so again, Im okay with that. Its usually my signal to read Twitter or AAM. Yeah, Im not sure some people understand how incredibly intense and in your face religion is in parts of the US. Im responding to the (possibly flippant) suggestion that people who dont already know what a pentacle/pentagram is start wearing one to deal with pushy Christians. Agree. Its fascism. Its not an empty bowl, its a full bowl where they can make a tiny spot where you can see the bottom of the bowl. And if she still talks to the remote worker, at least from my perspective, theres not a whole lot you can do about that, unless you want to run up the flag that theyre having long, non-work-related conversations and its distracting or something like that. Horrifying moment in this Pagans life; the Ash Wednesday that just happened? @CBF, I would totally follow along with Boochie Angrily Reads Books. There is a difference between a person whose religion is the center of their identity and a person who actively proselytizes. As a former Catholic turned atheist I have the best line to wiggle out of the awkward religion conversations, especially when they ask me where I go to church (because that always ends up leading to someone invited me to church if I say I dont go anywhere): I was raised Catholic. Shuts it down because people still feel weird about Catholics here in the South. To be clear, the statement that I responded to was As a gay man, I get uncomfortable hearing about religion not because I have an issue with it but because it tends to have an issue with me, and thats not a line I want to have to walk at work. from LBK. Anyway, my point is that AAMs advice is spot-on and my main objection is that Cersei isnt doing her work if she has time to have 40-minute long conversations on the phone, regardless of subject. But still. Challenging people to memorize bible verses like theyre kids in Sunday School is so strange to me. She was rude! I might be devout, but I keep it private unless someone is genuinely curious about it. Like, I can go on a whole comedy routine about the time I was given the choice between reading Twilight or watching Sarah Palin get interviewed on Fox its like the anti-Sophies Choice, really. I will be here this weekend for All Things Thorin and Thrawn. who is really following their faith will should totally understand that their behaviour is making others uncomfortable & be willing to adjust accordingly. Its the best part of the Mazda. I know too much, As Commander Shepard would say: I have to go.. Thats not to say those people havent experienced other types of oppression, but youd be hard pressed to find, say, a queer person from the Bible Belt who wouldnt see Cerseis behavior as really worrisome. From sitting through years of school we know that when someone raises their hand it means they have something they want to share. I talked to my sister about him so much, she banned me from ever mentioning his name again to her. SO GLAD you got my 20-year-old movie reference. I was thinking if that ever happens again, OP could say, I will call you at 3 am and YOU can pray. Totally agree. Combining the two doesnt make them LESS inflammatory. People who talk to you non stop dont respect you, and they dont care what you think, they just want to take a dump in your ear, unless you stop them. If you cannot do that, then you can be written up.. Where I think it crosses the line is: Even if I were absolutely sure they were chatting instead of specifically working on some task I urgently needed from them, Id talk to the manager about the task, not the chatting. I know in a parallel situation, coworkers creating a sexist environment is still an issue even if theyre not doing it *at* you, theyre just doing it withing your earshot. It was a renewal of vows for human/human married couples at which they were encouraged to bring guns. You can be pro-actively cautious without equating extremists with all members of a faith, or all members of all faiths. If you make noise about this, and Cersei is of a mind to bark loudly about being oppressed, and *especially* if Cersei found footing with others at the company with this behavior, and the management at this place are on her side then who is HR more likely to politely get rid of? Most people just went, I knowAsh Wednesday or something like it and I went, oh, ok. A friend could be careless, or feel that it was all right . Its not really comparable. Theoretical discussions on murder, bloodshed, war, brutality, and death are not appropriate subjects for the workplace. I just made a similar comment before seeing yours. She got another jobteaching for Bob Jones University. Privacy Policy and Affiliate Disclosures, we can be fired if our friends and family don't follow the company's religious values, new vendor keeps sending religious quotes on invoices, praying in interviews, retaliation for asking for a raise, and more, my coworker leans on us for help way too much, https://quoteinvestigator.com/2014/02/01/fanatic/, updates: unhappy with changes at work, asking to unblock a website, and more. Or shell start telling me about some new art she purchased and how I should come see it sometime, the colors are great!And shes got almost all of the stations of the cross! There are many coworkers at my office who make annoying personal calls throughout the day, but my boss would think it was a little weird if I brought that up to him. Its not just not so bad, its totally Huh? territory. Hello fellow raised Catholic turned atheist AND fellow Kentuckian! Until Nicki. Same. Instead of making people want to go to their cultish church*, it just made them look like idiots. As a non-believer, this would make me so uncomfortable. Hobby? She worked the front desk, and our clinic space was fairly small, so you could basically hear conversations happening at the desk/lobby area from anywhere in the clinic if people werent keeping their voices down. Ive found in these kinds of situations, its key to work with wording that emphasizes and prioritises your inconvenience: so, more than just AAMs, I dont want to talk about God at the office, Id go with straight up, Im not comfortable talking about God at the office. *Any* conscientious person should understand & be willing to adjust accordingly. And here I thought that cats *were* gods. Church activities are just discussed like any other activities that we talk about. @EvanMax: what youre doing here is called #NotAllChristians by those of us who arent of your faith. To me, that is very different than trying to navigate sensitive personal issues. What do I do?, I have ADHD and my husband and half my friends have ASD, so pretty much everyone has at least one Special Interest (TM). Just so long as we dont spend an hour talking about our Miatas at work ;). I mean, everyone should be able to eat and not be shamed! Im betting Meems works with two women who are consecrated virgins. For that to work youd need to feel out how evangelistic she is, or if she just assumes that everyone agrees with her. Unless youre a football referee, having strong opinions about football teams is not going to affect your ability to do your job the way that having strong religious beliefs is likely to. She doesnt see anything wrong with what shes doing. When she would take some of us teenagers out to eat, she wouldnt have us pray publicly (Lutherans are modest and shy in that way), but before eating would say, and may this food SOMEHOW nourish our bodies!. They will occasionally switch to talking about their retirement plans in excruciating detail. Theres an incredible range of tacky, usually copyright infringing T-shirts out there This Bloods For You and Body Piercing Saved My Life that make me viscerally angry. If she follows you, traps you, or gets on your grill for not listening to her spiel, then talk to HR. managing an employee who lies, I was the only one carded at a business lunch, and more, updates: telling recruiters I wouldnt move to a state that discriminates, new boss says everything is fun, and more, update: my boss thinks Im a stoner because I called out on 4/20.
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