The other alternative would be to have you on speed dial. Communion, Lord's Supper: Taking it in an Unworthy Manner? Do you see? They didnt have clocks back then. So I did. The Corinthians were suffering unnecessarily because they were not recognizing or discerning the Lords body. seems paul was not able to answer links argumnet?? Thus giving a more accurate hermeneutical exegesis of any biblical passage. I have read your extended response and it still seems to me that your view is the same as the traditional one, namely: The Corinthians sickness and premature death (v.30) was the Lords judgment executed in the name of discipline so as to spare them eternal condemnation. Why? (Ampl) We need to see and understand THE CROSS in truth now!!!!!!! 1331 1, 2; and 1332), but there are other cases in which Holy Communion must be denied, apart from any imposition or declaration of a canonical penalty, in order to respect the holiness of . The Joy of the Gospel. Jesse. You think thats mystic? Thus, their irreverance. How can that which gives me eternal life bring sickness and death? At this point my words may sound to you like Baaaah, baah. This being a gift from the good creator of all things. Q. 5:12), the most common use of has the decidedly unfavorable sense of a condemnatory judgement and the subsequent punishment as well. This is not neccessarily about counting what good He has purchased for us but about the believers attitude towards Him concerning such good; 2) v.29s drinking unworthily speaks directly to this question unworthily being correctly translated irreverantly; 3) those who do so bring krima (translated damnation) upon themselves. During holy communion people examine their sinful life instead of acknowledging what Christ did for us at the cross. In the same Chapter of 1 Corinthians, Paul continues by saying, ""For all who eat and As Andrew Wommack would say, If that dont light your fire-you have wet wood. Praise God. It was so bad that they were getting drunk on the wine! Holy Eucharist without believing that it is truly the Body (the Real Presence) of Jesus. What does it mean to take communion unworthily (1 Corinthians 11:27)? Think about it: We who were once defiled by sin have been washed white as snow (Is 1:18). It is exhilarating when the depths of this love penetrates your mind. Not taking the work of The Cross.. Bless you!! Do this in remembrance of me. But for technical questions pertaining to the meaning of words, I use all the usual resources: e-Sword, Strongs, Vines, etc. can non-christian that understand what is the holy communion and the purpose of it consume it? In the Mass, after the sacrifice itself is completed, we have the unspeakable privilege of receiving the flesh and blood of . This ordinance established by Jesus involves eating the bread and drinking the wine. By his own definition, I dont see how he was worthy either. Being unworthy and taking communion will cause God's judgment to come into your life, according to what I've been taught year after year. This is a statement made directly to the New Testament church. 2 Thessalonians 1 speaks clearly of this pleasure God observes. So many things in scripture that once condemned are being revealed as good news I thought i was the worst Christian in the world and the only one who didnt get so many of these precepts etc, but thought i would be even more thrown under the bus by the answers.Good News indeed. Im the first place there is no serious sin , sin is sin.If you knew you had sinned why would God have to convict you of it.You say once you had confessed then God punished you? Since the word for discipline used in Hebrews means training (literally, discipling), I totally agree with you. The Corinthians, though saved, were still feeling the effects of Adams sin because they were under-valuing the death of Jesus. Repentance is good and necessary, but once saved, the repentance act doesnt make us worthy, Jesus makes us worthy. 11:27). All to show our worthiness; something that was lacking in those over thrown in the wilderness. I dont mean to be a cheerleader per se, but I do sit back with my lower jaw dropped in amazement! There is a cause for the punishment Paul describes. It sounds as if you are speaking of sacramental grace or a means of grace from a religious perspective. So that we will not be condemned with the world (that is to be weak and sick, and fallen asleep). Was Paul confused or deliberately misleading? As Paul says, the happenings of the old serve as examples to keep us from setting our hearts on evil things (1 Cor 10:6). I could go on. We have to be careful to read the Bible for what it says and learn from the Bible, instead of just trying to re-interpret everything it says to make it fit with a pre-conceived theology. 29 For those who eat and drink without discerning the body of Christ eat and drink . Its in the original language.and It appears all over the new testament -Amanda, Job spoke what is right in Gods sight. As for some senior elder (your definition) calling you out. It seems you are confusing the two covenants. By failing to honor his body and blood they take communion in a less than worthy manner. Paul, please review your teaching concerning this passage. Jesus plans for those with soiled garments (the self-righteous) are very clear and can be found in Rev 3:3. Could it be in your study of words youve missed the wood for the trees? Thanks again Paul, for the sincerity of your answer. What if we really believed the perfection of Gods Law and what if we really believed in Godly righteousness and the impossibility of achieving it? 1 Corinthians 11; 20 22, and 33 34 reads. For my thoughts on being judged by the Lord when taking communion, please see this recent post. That doesnt sound like damnation to me. Did Paul have a change of heart? Hi Bert, I didnt think Link was attacking my position either. He didnt say much else because no doubt they could all recall the fuss that happened the last time he said he was the bread of life: I am the bread of life I am the living bread that came down from heaven. I was taught that before you take communion you had to run around the community and fix issue with every person who had something against you. This is in response to the post by Christian Peschken. My God has not changed from the old to the new covenant. So I guess this means that all is well then. (John 6:48,51-54). Can anyone claim ignorance to the fact that God will cast away those who claim His Name yet knowingly continue to sin? Paul was known to simplify the deep things of the spirit into ways the everyday reader could understand. In chapter 10:17, we see that we being many are one bread for we are all partakers of that bread. Hi Elaine,just to add to Chriss comments, I hardly think your daughter dating an unbeliever is being unequally yoked,any more than her having friends who are not yet believers.Frankly,it is none of their business.Sadly, the attitude of the church towards your family is one that is too often perpetuated by churches to the lost worldthat we do not genuinely care about YOUabout being your friend,accepting you,unless you become a christian.Prayers going out to you and your daughter and go ahead and have communion at home some time when the boyfriend is over(as long as he doesnt feel awkward or pressured). This is a true story.I remember once,when I was still a young christian(about 35 years ago)I got into some serious sin on a Saturday evening.The following morning I went to church as normal and took communion.As I sat there I felt what seemed like a powerful surge of electricity go through my entire body.It was if my entire nervous system was being fried.I cried out in pain and agony and people turned their heads in complete surprise at what was happening.However,the senior elder at this pentecostal church seemed to know exactly what was going on.He informed all present that it was conviction of sin! and asked me to step forward and confess.Shamefacedly I owned up and only when I had done so did the agonizing sensation of being electrocuted leave me.Some might dismiss my experience as due to stress but I wonder how this church elder was able to discern that I seemed to be undergoing some form of discipline from God?Forever afterwards I have always approached the communion table with some trepidation sometimes refusing to take part.How do I reconcile my experience with your idea that ALL Sinners are welcome to take communion?Did not the adulterous stepson incur judgment? or despise ye the church of God, and shame them that have not? If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever. Thanks. Once I spent my life doing nothing for anyone though I believed in Christ in my heart. The denial of Holy Communion can be the effect of the imposition or declaration of the canonical penalties of Excommunication and Interdict (cf. I have read and prayed about it much. Sin is sin Do you believe the sin of non-discernment is the same as the sin of unbelief in Gods eyes? Thank you for breaking it down for us. If I Take Communion Unworthily, Will I Drink Damnation to My Soul? Now that I am free from false teaching, I celebrate the Lords Supper in prayer times 2-3 times a week. Referring to David saying; being flogged with a whip but as it were,getting a fatherly slap which I rightly deserved. It doesnt have to always be about righteousness vs,unrighteousness, it can be about the end results of it, the fruit. Start your journey to freedom now! Does the Catholic Church teach anything about To receive communion unworthily is a form of sacrilege. Then I wouldn't have to trim them to get them past E2Rs censors. Commuion: Eating And Drinking "Unworthily" - SermonCentral But Instead of a sip of wine and a bit of a communion wafer, they receive the food they need to sustain themselves in the coming week. This makes totally no sense.. I am very satisfied now on the confusion in taken communion. There is not one scripture in the new covenant that suggests that God makes even sinners sick, let alone those who recognize Him as Father. The universal hour of testing is not a reference to chastisement or discipline (or the destruction of Jerusalem). The RCC teaches a different Jesus and a different gospel. William G. Most. Hi David, The Discipline Regarding the Denial of Holy Communion to Those May the Lord bless you big time!!! When Should We Not Take Holy Communion? - Christianity Excuse me while I vomit. Not earned by me; not deserved by me but given to me based on what Jesus did and finished at the cross! Whether it is chastisement doesnt matter, as what ever it is, Jesus is trying to help avoid it, for if we,.. abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed at his coming. 1 John 2:28. I suspect the use of damnation in the KJV in verse 29 is a bad translation. It is amazing that those who are under law choose to stay there in spite of the tremendous price Jesus paid so we can be free!! Right?? The Corinthian church was having a community meal and celebrating communion. It is self explanatary more kudos to your elbow God bless you all keep it up they Lord is you strenght thanks. Sin is sin there is no difference in Gods eyes. Chapter 11 verse 32 shows us that the judgment here was chastisement. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Therefore, whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of sinning against the body and blood of the Lord. In the first line of his/her comment Link reveals that s/he is attacking something I didnt say, so theres no need to engage. I prayed I would find the answer. Thanks! If Christs death means something to you, then communion is a time to celebrate. But when we are judged (krino), we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned (katakrino) with the world. Ive been preaching this for a number of years now and sharing where ever I see it necessary..
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